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What’s The .50 Beowulf Good For?

by Paul Youngblood   |  July 14th, 2011 64

I knew when I first saw the .50 Beowulf cartridge that I had to have one. Interestingly, when my shooting buddies saw it they all asked the question, “What on Earth would you use that for?”

This is very good accuracy from a big boomer.  This 5 shot, 100 yard group was fired using the 500 gr Hornady XTP FN, which was the single most accurate bullet tested.

This is very good accuracy from a big boomer. This 5 shot, 100 yard group was fired using the 500 gr Hornady XTP FN, which was the single most accurate bullet tested.

What is the 50 Beowulf good for? Well let’s see. It closely duplicates the performance of our oldest war horse–the great .45-70–the devastating effectiveness of which is a known quantity. It fits neatly into the magazine of the current standard AR-15 platform of our military and the civilian version thereof. Due to the ready availability of a plethora of .50 caliber bullets, the cartridge is quite versatile for much of the hunting in North America. For law enforcement purposes it is definitely suited to roles for which the 12 gauge slug is suitable, and it is significantly more powerful and accurate than a rifled slug to boot.

Years ago, I ordered a .50 Beowulf upper receiver made by Alexander Arms in Virginia. They call it the Overmatch upper, and it features a 16 inch barrel as well as a medium length gas system. Due to the increased size of the ejection port required to eject the fat Beowulf case, no dust cover is included, but the receiver does have forward assist. I topped it with a Nikon Buckmaster 3×9 scope that has proven to be clear, reliable and very tough.

 

Alexander Arms marked upper receiver

The author purchased an Alexander Arms .50 Beowulf upper receiver for his upper receiver.

 

I upgraded my Beowulf upper receiver by installing a Yankee Hill Machine full length free float quad rail. That required that I fit the barrel with a low profile gas block so I called the nice folks at Triton Arms who got me an excellent low profile gas block and a very sexy muzzle brake installed on my barrel. The brake fits perfectly, features eight evenly spaced slots similar to a birdcage, and sports some aggressive teeth on the front that will aid in use as a stand-off device for breaching chores or as a pain compliance tool where appropriate. Besides being dang good looking, the brake helps mitigate the substantial recoil from full house loads, and when shooting hundreds of rounds of the Beowulf, that is an important consideration.

The author’s rifle set up for general purpose and HD use. Ace Stock, Rock River Lower, Alexander Arms upper, MagPul trigger guard, Yankee Hill Manufacturing full length quad rail, Triton Arms gas block and muzzle brake, Burris 30mm tactical rings and Millett DMS scope.

The author’s rifle set up for general purpose and HD use. Ace Stock, Rock River Lower, Alexander Arms upper, MagPul trigger guard, Yankee Hill Manufacturing full length quad rail, Triton Arms gas block and muzzle brake, Burris 30mm tactical rings and Millett DMS scope.

 

Loading the .50 Beowulf is straight forward–think of it as a big pistol round. It is a straight tapered round that headspaces on the case mouth like an overgrown 9mm Parabellum. As with most pistol rounds, it requires belling of the case mouth and a mild taper crimp. The distinctive rebated rim on the case is no accident, and the case head fits a 7.62×39 sized bolt face so there is plenty of strength in the lugs to securely lock the action closed. Unlike some other big bore AR

12.	The Beowulf uses a 7.62x39 sized bolt, which is plenty beefy.  The puny 5.56 mm sized bolt is on the right.

The Beowulf uses a 7.62x39 sized bolt (l.), which is plenty beefy. The puny 5.56 mm sized bolt is on the right.

cartridges, there is no doubt about the strength of the bolt using this rebated rim design. Alexander Arms’ load data cautions against over crimping. Too much crimp will cause a slight bulge behind the case mouth, and that will lock your gun up when the round gets wedged in the chamber. The best solution is to make sure the cases are trimmed to the same length and only a moderate crimp is used. Neck tension does the bulk of the work holding the bullet anyway.

Starline cases were used throughout my testing. The short version is that these Starline cases are excellent! I weighed and measured ten random cases, and the maximum difference in length was .008″ and weight difference varied by only .3 grains. When the cases are trimmed to a uniform length, they weigh within .1 grain of each other–very consistent. I had no cases fail during testing even though some were loaded ten times during my trials.

Powders useful in the Beowulf are pretty limited–as I said, it is really a big pistol round. Hodgdon’s LIL’GUN and H-110 were used for this testing. Those two powders did wonderfully, and both produced great accuracy with LIL’GUN giving a bit more velocity. Additionally, it is more economical to use than H-110 since less powder is needed to get higher velocity. Reloder 7 from Alliant Powders was successfully used with the heaviest bullets, and it did well for them producing great accuracy and low extreme spreads but lower velocity than either of the Hodgdon powders. Sadly, no published data was found pairing this great powder with lighter bullets.

19.	The bullets used in the tests are drastically different in construction and offer different performance for different applications.

Bullets used in the tests are drastically different in construction and offer different performance for different applications.

 

I worked with three Hornady bullets for this project. The 300-grain FTX bullet offers great accuracy as well as top velocity tested. The 350-grain XTP is a tough mid-weight bullet that offers very wonderful accuracy. The 500-grain XTP flat-nose bullet is a monster crusher that proved to be the single most accurate bullet tested–I was able to shoot several ragged hole five-shot groups with that bullet with three different powders!

Youngblood found the Beowulf ammo to feed reliably from the Alexander Arms supplied magazine (top) as well as GI mags.

Youngblood found the Beowulf ammo to feed reliably from the Alexander Arms supplied magazine (top) as well as GI mags.

 

Speer also offers three wonderful bullets for the Beowulf. The 300-grain Gold Dot proved to be very lightly constructed for the Beowulf. It may very well make the ideal personal defense bullet for the .50 Beowulf since expansion is violent at these velocities thereby limiting over penetration. The Speer 325-grain JHP is a tougher bullet, and MOA accuracy is the norm. Don’t be fooled by the label on the new packaging that calls this bullet a “plinker” and “ideal for target shooting.” Concerned, I called Speer and was assured that in spite of marketing hyperbole it’s the same tough JHP as it ever was. The spanking new Deep Curl bullet has a wide, flat meplat and a tapered jacket that gets very thick toward the base. Sub-MOA proved to be pretty easy with this new bullet–it’s my do-all bullet for the Beowulf since it will expand on light game, and hold together on tough game.

SinterFire sent  some of their compressed inert metal powder bullets for testing–both 300-grain round-nose and their V Force bullet of the same weight. The round-nose is a general purpose design while the V Force has a hollow point that helps it fragment a bit easier on softer targets. In fact, for hunting they would perform as solids against most North American game. I suppose impact with heavy bone might cause some fragmentation at Beowulf velocities, which would be fine of course. They do turn into dust against steel targets and are environmentally friendly containing no lead or tungsten. For LE purposes these bullets have been tested against automotive and marine engines with good results without the danger of over penetrating. My particular rifle did not shoot these bullets as accurately as it did lead core bullets, but for banging steel or hunting at ranges out to 100 yards they will be fine; keeping all shots in the head of a standard IDPA target is easy.

What’s more powerful than a 223, is more accurate than 12 gauge slug and still fits in a standard AR platform? Law enforcement perfection?  Possibly…

What’s more powerful than a 223, is more accurate than 12 gauge slug and still fits in a standard AR platform? Law enforcement perfection? Possibly…

Alexander Arms offers factory loads that use the Rainier bullets, so I thought it only appropriate to include some of those bullets in the test. I had some FMJ as well as JHP on hand, and I have shot enough of them over the years to know they are good, dependable performers in the Beowulf. These plated bullets with paper thin jackets are not very tough, but they are inexpensive to shoot. Accuracy for me is usually 2-2.5 MOA with either bullet, certainly adequate for plinking and hunting out to 100-150 yards.

I’m pleased with the .50 Beowulf cartridge. It is powerful, accurate and fits in an AR platform. Ammo is easy to load with a surprisingly large array of bullets for everything from inexpensive  plinking to crushing seriously big game. Interestingly the name Beowulf in Old English literally translates into Bee-Wolf, or simply Bear. I can think of few cartridges with a name that fits better than the .50 Beowulf.

 

Warning:  The loads shown here are safe only in the guns for which they were developed. Neither the author nor InterMedia Outdoors, Inc. assumes any liability for accidents or injury resulting from the use or misuse of this data.

Bullet Powder Velocity (fps) Notes
300-gr. Hornady FTX 44.5 grs. H-110 1980 fps High velocity, accurate
300-gr. Hornady FTX 38.8 grs. LIL’GUN 2034 fps Highest velocity, accurate
300-gr. SinterFire Round-Nose 35 grs. LIL’GUN 1862 fps Decent velocity, low S.D.
300-gr. SinterFire V-Force 35 grs. LIL’GUN 1861 fps Decent velocity
300-gr. Speer Gold Dot 44.0 grs. H-110 1957 fps Good velocity
300-gr. Speer Gold Dot 38.5 grs. LIL’GUN 1998 fps Good Velocity and accuracy
325 gr. Speer JHP 37.0 grs. LIL’ GUN 1782 fps MOA accurate, consistent
334 gr. Rainier FMJ 36.2 grs. LIL’ GUN 1789 fps Decent accuracy
350 gr. Hornady XTP 35.6 grs. LIL’ GUN 1797 fps Very accurate
350 gr. Hornady XTP 41.0 grs. H-110 1837 fps MOA accurate
350 gr. Speer DeepCurl 40.5 grs. H-110 1820 fps Excellent accuracy
350 gr. Speer DeepCurl 35.0 grs. LIL’ GUN 1726 fps MOA accurate, consistent
500 gr. Hornady XTP FN 28.1 grs. LIL’ GUN 1394 fps Most accurate
500 gr. Hornady XTP FN 32.5 grs. H-110 1308 fps Second most accurate
500 gr. Hornady XTP FN 37.0 grs. Re-7 1305 fps Third most accurate
  • bruce

    500 gr. Hornady XTP FN 28.1 grs. LIL’ GUN 1394 fps is described as being the most accurate. It is also the heaviest. Since it goes through the sound barrier at 1124 fps what accounts for it's accuracy? Does the weight of the bullet prevent the affect of sound barrier turbulence on its trajectory? Sub MOA accuracy is amazing!

  • ntrudr_800

    That's a heavy bullet! It's Sub-MOA Accurate to about 50 yards, then it sharply falls -103.5". Just kidding! :P

  • Paul

    500 gr. Hornady XTP FN 28.1 grs. LIL’ GUN 1394 fps is described as being the most accurate. It is also the heaviest. Since it goes through the sound barrier at 1124 fps what accounts for it’s accuracy? Does the weight of the bullet prevent the affect of sound barrier turbulence on its trajectory? Sub MOA accuracy is amazing!

    Bruce:

    I don't know if it's a sound barrier thing or not, quite honestly. It may very well be. My thinking was that the 500 gr bullet has such a long bearing surface like the super accurate 38 SPL wadcutters at low velocity used in pistol matches. Either way, I was able to shoot sub MOA groups with 3 different powders with this bullet-the only bullet tested that did so for me.

    • David Rodgers

      It's really a simple matter of physics. A larger/heavier projectile will stay it's course against outside forces much better than a lighter projectile. Look at it like this …. a locomotive and a car are barreling down the same path encountering the same obstacles along the way .. wind from the side, turbulence, walls ….. whatever you put in front of them the locomotive (even if it isn't on a track) is going to stay it's course while bashing through the barriers better than the small car.

      • David Rodgers

        Cooincidentally this is why the 45/70 fared so well for ultra long range shots in it's day …. it's not an aerodynamic thing it's just heavy so when you launch it in a direction it keeps going that way even if it loses altitude it keeps going straight.

        • http://www.facebook.com/mtelep Mark Telep

          Factors that effect accuracy are bearing surface and sectional density. The longer bullets are more accurate, but drop faster.

  • Ben

    That's great accuracy. I have a few thousand rounds through my Beowulf, and have yet to experience great accuracy. A five shot group is NEVER less than 1", no matter the powder or bullet. (although I have yet to try the 500gr Hornady's.)

    What COL did you use for the 28.1gr of Lil Gun with the 500 Hornady's?

  • Qball

    I have discovered that the accuracy of my Beowulf improves after about 15 shots thru a clean barrel. So I have stopped cleaning the barrel after every trip to the range. Everytime I go to the range with a clean barrel, it takes me about 15 shots before I start getting close groups. That said, if you've been having accuracy issues and you clean your barrel regularly, try extending your barrel cleaning intervals and see if it helps.

  • Allen

    Did you see any sign of over pressuring in these rounds? Also do you recall any of your overall lengths? You can contact me via e-mail if you would like. I'd like to pick your brain a little bit in order to help me on my reloads.

  • earlyboomer

    How many times can these cases be fired before case trimming is needed ??

  • william buhmann

    what were the primers used

  • 8×9 Elk

    What is the 3rd bullet from the left? Thinking of taking my wulf on a Brownie hunt and looking to use a solid. Will not be having a shot over 200 which should be in the wulf's comfort zone.

  • chris

    Just started to reload my Beowulf… Worried that I loaded some too hot, is there a way to measure barrel pressure? Also, if u wanted to load the 500gr XTP's using Lil'Gun, but brought the Powder wt up to say 31grs to gain some velocity/distance? How do u know when its too much (before disaster)? The only reload data I could find was on the Alexander Arms website but it only covers the standard Rainer's?

  • Jeff

    What is the proper OAL on the 500 Grain Hornady XTP using the 28.1 Grains of Lil' Gun?

  • jeff

    thanks for NOT replying.

    • bigdaa

      The article is near a year old.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=688245302 Dale Carter

        bigdaa – don’t you know that we should all inventory and track everything we have ever posted on the web, for eternity? Especially for technical questions that may, very likely, apply to one guy? hahahaha

  • Cal

    I can't find Bill Alexander's posts elsewhere about Beowulf powders and pressure but I recall that he said the Beowulf is a low pressure round and pressure limits can be exceeded with NO pressure signs. Just an FYI but I use his factory load data as starting points and correlate chrony velocities as I proceed very slowly from the known to the unknown! He also discussed the reason for limiting Lil'Gun to the lighter bullets, but I can't for the life of me remember the reason. I think it had to do with some kind of inconsistent performance with the heavier bullets.

  • John Fah-q Smith

    What is it good for?

    How about mice, rabbits and squirrels… ;) OR anything larger.

  • Going_green

    Actually my browning 12 gauge has more knock down power.

    • dirty

      Hey, i thought we were talking about the beowolf

  • Going_green

    Lightfield Hybred 3 in 12 gauge will out perform any rifle including beowulf out to 250 yds. And it is not over kill. All game will drop in it’s tracks.

    • Matt Dillon

      Every once in awhile you find a BS post by a guy who is clearly a troll, and you just have to let him have it HARD.
      Lets use FACTS, not your FICTION numbers:
      Lightfield’s own webite says: “Loaded with a 1 1/4 oz (546 grain) hourglass shaped pure lead slug for maximum expansion (not pass through) the 3” magnum will produce 3,628 ft/lbs muzzle and 1,350 ft/lbs @ 150 yards.”

      From Cabela’s site about Lightfield slugs:

      12 3″ 1-1/4 oz.1730 fps
      The article above used a 16″ barrel. So what happens when we give it a more realistic length, to compare apples to apples? You’re using an 18-24″ barrel, so I’ll use data for Beo with a 24″ barrel.

      SO, here we see you’ve only got 1730 fps/3600ME vs Beo’s 400 grain HAWK load of 1900fps/3123ME (24 inch barrel)….Pretty even in my book. But wait… there’s more:
      At 150 yards you have: Beo w 1390fps/1700ftlbs….vs. your 1040 fps/1350FTLBS (Micks outdoor page, chrono’d).
      At your vaunted 200 yards, you have Beo with 1283fps1470ftlbs vs your 945 fps/1100ftlbs wait for it….wait….I WIN.
      Shorten my barrel appropriately, we are dead even with my 400 grain Hawk out to about 250, after than I WIN, YOU LOSE but who would be shooting that far with either in all practicality? Which brings me to the core issue you ignore:
      If we are hunting big game your slugger is a more logical choice if a person was to go buy something forthe given ranges BASED ON COST ALONE (any basic shotgun is cheaper than any Beo AR or AR upper), Beowulf wasn’t designed for the weekend deer hunter. It was designed as a bigbore alternative to the 5.56 on the AR platform as a bad guy stopper and as a shorter range game round.
      AR in Beo or Socom or 450 bushy WINS, we have more options for optics, more ammo, you name it, its a better choice for just about any intended use IF cost is not the only factor. And, as someone who has been hunting for 40 years, and has carried the AR and shotgun into armed conflict–and seen more death–human and otherwise than you ever have, accurate shooting kills things—all of which will be just as dead if they are heart shot with 4000 ft pounds or 500 ft pounds. But then again you’re THAT GUY that thinks a slug has enough juice to knock over a 200 pound human or deer….when that same slug won’t knock over a 200 pound steel plate. :) Have a nice day.

      • Attorney

        Again your clueless. You might wanna google a 45-70 with 405 grain bullet versus 525 grain bullet. Its a fact the heavier bullets do more damage and are more accurate and have further range. That is why the 50 bmg is a better sniper rifle than a 308. As for the Beowulf I have looked at the ballistics they are NOT superior to a 3 in lightfield sabot bullet by any means. And no ar platform is designed for consistant accuracy. My 25-06 and 3 in browning gold with cantilever out shoot and Beowulf. I welcome you to hunt with me or take it to the range. Put your money where your mouth is so to speak. I shoot with guys that own all of these weapons and we test rounds and platforms frequently. The Beowulf is good at what it was designed to do. But at hunting deer its not even in the top ten of rifles. PERIOD.

        • Attorney

          now a .223, or .243. or 25-06, those have enough terminal velocity to be equal to the lightfield on deer at 200 yds but lack the stopping power a lightfield 546 grain bullet can do on a bear or moose.

      • Attorney

        Try taking a 600 grain bullet anywhere in the body see what happens. You wont survive a shotgun round. Lead is soft and the energy is off the charts. ANy Alsakan would chose a shotgun on a brown bear over a 50 cal beowulf any day. I could careless about military experience. Large game are tougher to bring down than any human. Military uses .223 for a reason its fast and does tissue damage to take you out of the fight and most of its CHEAPER than larger rounds.

      • Attorney

        your numbers are incorrect Lightfield is 1890 fps 4759 ft lbs try again lol

      • Attorney

        Beowulf is 2800 fps and 1800 fps for 400 grain. It is not even close to any rifle in terms of speed. You need to be over 2500 fps to have knock down power on deer with a jacket bullet. The Beowulf is too slow and too hard of a bullet to have the knockdown that either a rilfe or lead shotgun sabot provide.

    • Matt Dillon

      Every once in awhile you find a BS post by a guy who is clearly a troll, and you just have to let him have it HARD.
      Lets use FACTS, not your FICTION numbers:
      Lightfield’s own webite says: “Loaded with a 1 1/4 oz (546 grain) hourglass shaped pure lead slug for maximum expansion (not pass through) the 3” magnum will produce 3,628 ft/lbs muzzle and 1,350 ft/lbs @ 150 yards.”

      From Cabela’s site about Lightfield slugs:

      12 3″ 1-1/4 oz.1730 fps
      The article above used a 16″ barrel. So what happens when we give it a more realistic length, to compare apples to apples? You’re using an 18-24″ barrel, so I’ll use data for Beo with a 24″ barrel.

      SO, here we see you’ve only got 1730 fps/3600ME vs Beo’s 400 grain HAWK load of 1900fps/3123ME (24 inch barrel)….Pretty even in my book. But wait… there’s more:
      At 150 yards you have: Beo w 1390fps/1700ftlbs….vs. your 1040 fps/1350FTLBS (Micks outdoor page, chrono’d).
      At your vaunted 200 yards, you have Beo with 1283fps1470ftlbs vs your 945 fps/1100ftlbs wait for it….wait….I WIN.
      Shorten my barrel appropriately, we are dead even with my 400 grain Hawk out to about 250, after than I WIN, YOU LOSE but who would be shooting that far with either in all practicality? Which brings me to the core issue you ignore:
      If we are hunting big game your slugger is a more logical choice if a person was to go buy something forthe given ranges BASED ON COST ALONE (any basic shotgun is cheaper than any Beo AR or AR upper), Beowulf wasn’t designed for the weekend deer hunter. It was designed as a bigbore alternative to the 5.56 on the AR platform as a bad guy stopper and as a shorter range game round.
      AR in Beo or Socom or 450 bushy WINS, we have more options for optics, more ammo, you name it, its a better choice for just about any intended use IF cost is not the only factor. And, as someone who has been hunting for 40 years, and has carried the AR and shotgun into armed conflict–and seen more death–human and otherwise than you ever have, accurate shooting kills things—all of which will be just as dead if they are heart shot with 4000 ft pounds or 500 ft pounds. But then again you’re THAT GUY that thinks a slug has enough juice to knock over a 200 pound human or deer….when that same slug won’t knock over a 200 pound steel plate. :) Have a nice day.

  • Going_green

    My 12 gauge 3 in Lightfields shoot over 545 grains at 1730 fps, the beowulf is 500 gr at 1300 fps. There is no contest. A shotgun will knock a 300 lb deer on it’s butt. The Beowulf your gonna have to fire more than once.

    • Jerry

      Too bad the Lightfields won’t shoot 5 shots in 1 ragged hole at 100 yds like a Beowulf. We won’t even talk about how the slugs shoot at 150-200.

      • Going_green

        I can clover leaf my lightfields all day at 125 yds. It has been tested as the most accurate shotgun ammo. And an AR platform certainly is nice but if look at ballitics my lighfields have more energy and knockdown power than a 50 cal beowulf.

      • Going_green

        Muzzle velocity 1890 fps ME 4759 ft lbs 63 cal 546 grain bullet versus a Beowulf 1875 fps 3123 ME ft lbs 50 cal 400 grain bullet. I WIN on any deer at any distance!

      • Attorney

        I will bet you 10k I can out shoot you any day with my lightfields. I take head shots at 150 yds on deer clover leaf my shots at 150. You can’t do that with any Beouwulf. Let me know when your ready to right that check.

      • Attorney

        Be happy to challenge you anytime with mind. I shoot competition and my browning cantilever will out shoot a beowulf, I already tested it in the field. If you have any clue about ballistics a 600 grain lead sabot at 1800 fps has alot more energey than a lil 50 cal beowulf.

    • James Fiddler

      If you do not hit the shoulder thatdeer is going to run
      I hunt with 150g 308 if hit in the shoulder the deer drops if shot in the lungs or heart he runs untell he bleeds out that is my experience

      • Attorney

        a 308 is not a 600 grain lead bullet. I have killed deer since 1974, and my 3 in browning lightfields 1 1/4 oz 1800 fps I have dropped over 10 deer none went more than 5 yds. a 308 is a good round but is more for long range. My 25-06 out performs your 308 out to 300 yds. I have killed 250 lb deer at 300 yd heart shot they die instanty due to the speed and energy. In other words lead is best under 2500 fps, u need 3000 fps to put a big buck down. We have killed many trophy bucks out west with 243 and 25-06 and they have dropped instantly. The .270 and .308 just dont put them down. They tend to poke a hole instead of exploding on impact. These are the facts of watching over 300 deer harvested and 30 years plus experience.

        • Matt Dillon

          The word CLOWN comes to mind here. All your BS is amazing. Claiming a 270 or a 308 don’t put deer down? Just poke a hole? As for the Beowulf, no deer, elk, bad guy, or terrorist is much going to give a rat’s rear end if he’s shot in the chest with Beowulf or a 308 or your 5 shot slugger…..WAIT you have 5 shots….so in a LE or military application YOU are out of ammo….and any idiot alive can rap off 5 rounds of Beo before you get two off.

          • Attorney

            I have taken deer with 25-06, 243 those are fast rounds and do put deer down, the 270 and 308 are slower and do not put deer down as well. I know of no one in Montana, Wyoming, or SOuth Dakota that would choose a 308 over 25-06 0r 243.

          • don’t like attorney…

            “Attorney” your an idiot….. Stfu…. Nuff said…

          • Attorney

            I only need one round I never miss.

          • Cadeus

            Matt Dillon, Dude your So Right Attorney is an idiot. And doesn’t know what he/she/it is saying.

      • Attorney

        That’s bs, I have killed many deer and bucks with my 3 in light fields not one has gone more that 10 yds even out to 250 yds.

  • Going_green

    The author is wrong on his numbers, My Browning gold shoots 3 in slugs 560 grain 63 cal bullet faster and has more energy. And I have killed deer out to 250 yds I have taken many deer head shots out to 150 yds. My slugs have 1/4 in groups at 125 yds.

    • Matt Dillon

      ROTFLMAO. Quarter inch groups with a slugger eh? LOL.

      • Attorney

        Yea its a fact. I guess you need to learn how to shoot.

        • caelestis calametis

          yes because a smoothbore shotgun slug is so accurate to 125 yards.

          dude the accuracy on those things is rated at 50 yards

          you know technical terms attorney but the more you speak the less common sense there is in your “stories” of prowess

          • Attorney

            No one uses smooth bores anymore. I been using a rifled barrel for over 20 years. I can tell people on this forum are not shooters. Anyone that shoots shotguns should know that basic fact.

          • honeybadger515

            No need to be an ass.

          • Attorney

            No one shoots smooth bore lol rifled barrels for shotgun have been available for years.

  • Steve

    attorney- I doubt you have shot a deer with a 50 beowolf. I’m not doubting 3″ lightfields but I’ve shot 280 lb deer that didn’t even twitch while dropping in one shot.

    • Attorney

      I have been hunting since 1974, and with 3 in shotgun have not had a deer even 250 lb go more than 5 yd, neck shots, head shots, shoulder shots and even lung heart shots, the power is amazing and the ft lbs of energy far exceed a beowulf. My 25-06 I have dropped 250 lb plus deer in wyoming in their tracks hitting behind the shoulder. I have learned that lead and a lot of it is devastating at 1800 fps out to 250 yds, after that the 25-06 is nasty out to 400 yds. Beouwulf is too small and too slow to be effective on dropping a deer in its tracks, how do I know? I have shot deer with 45-70, 454 cascull, 50 cal desert storm bullets behind 130 grains of black powder. they dont even come close to putting a deer down in its tracks.

      • Cadeus

        Really? I’ve never heard of 454 casull making round for black powder or ever heard of Desert Storm (Eagle, yes owned one once).Do you truly understand caliber sizes (they don’t go backwards in size like wire sizes)? I Have killed animals in my lifetime. Deer with 165gr Rem bullets. Dropped like bricks. In fact been shot b a 40 cal pistol and nearly couldn’t move. If you truly shot a deer with a 45cal or + and it didn’t drop near instantly then your a bad shot and need to sell your weapons to someone that can or learn to shoot head shots!

        • caelestis calametis

          dude you dont shoot deer in the head you shoot them in the heart you ruin a trophy if you land that round at a harder target that constantly moves around for most deer(IE the head)

          aim for the heart.

          i can tell you dont hunt cuz no hunter in their right mind would aim for a head shot on game when center mass gets them more chance of a good kill more accuracy and the chance to not have an exploded skull for a ruined trophy.

          that said i dont agree with attorney stating that a beowulf wouldnt drop a deer.

          hell a .22 will drop a deer if your aim is good enough (would just take longer for the deer to actually die)

          • Attorney

            Been hunting deer for 40 years and with bow yea I take double lung and heart shots. With shot gun inside 80 yds I always take upper neck shots. You ruin less meat and there is no tracking of the animal and they bleed out quickly. I hunt with some of the best hunters, I can tell you have been taught by amateurs.

          • Attorney

            What I am saying is lead has more knock down power the ballitics table show you that. When using a jacketed bullet you need the speed of .242, or 25-06 to have the energy to consistanly knock down deer. You can gut shot deer at 300 yds with .243 or 25-06 and they drop. A slow bullet like the beowulf is inferior to a high powered rifle and inferior to a shot gun as it is too slow to have the expansion unless your using a lead bullet no jacket.

          • Attorney

            When you take a deer for meat a neck or head shot wastes less meat, a neck shot they bleed out quickly. My venison tastes better too. Over 50 years experince between my father a professional butcher and hundred of deer we know more than most people.

        • Attorney

          If you read what I said. I have taken deer with 45-70 blackpowder, 454 cascull lever action, and muzzleloader 50 cal desert bullets with 130 grain powder.

        • Attorney

          lol i have shot 1/4 moa at 300 meters. I do know what I am talking about.

  • Mohammed Faris

    My Kinda Wep!!!

  • Burn a Koran a Day

    The stupid is strong in this thread….

    You can definitely tell the shooters from the retards in this one.

  • trixy

    all you guys talking about having deer run on you after shooting them just didn’t place your shot right. size doesn’t matter its the placement of the shot. Deer don’t take another step when they are hit right with a 22 cal. while this last year ive seen a deer take about 5 223 rounds 2 308 rounds and four 44 caliber rounds before it was down. all those shots were taken while running after the deer cuz it was slightly wounded and wasn’t able to run fast so they weren’t the most well placed shots but they still connected. headshots are for military snipers not hunters. center of mass is a hunter shot. that way if you shoot high you get a spine shot and the deer is down and if you shoot low you should still have a decent blood trail to track. the same year I saw a guy shoot a deer 6 times with a 308. he had a kel tec RFB with a low power scope and he was taking shots at a sprinting deer at about 250 to 300 yards only one shot was well placed and that’s the one that dropped it.

  • Kansas

    Attorney, I think you are way out of line. I have a 50 beowulf and yes i have shot deer with it. And yes it will stop a deer in its tracks and anything else that gets in its way. so go on and say what ever you want about it. But maybe you should get one or shoot one before you bag on it so much.

  • Jeff

    I think the 50 Beowulf would be excellent in CQC against ISIS pieces of s***. It’s devastating and very effective, one shot one kill.

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