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Identifications & Values, April 2004

Firearms covered 1917 Enfield,W. Moore & Co. Swivel-Breech Muzzleloader,Quackenbush .22,Winchester Model 67,S&W Model 625-3, Savage Model 1917 Pistol, .50-70 Rolling-Block,Marlin Westpoint,Japanese Type 38,L.C. Smith Double,CZ Model 27,Webley Mark
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Winchester Model 67
Q A friend of mine showed me an old single-shot bolt-action rifle he has owned from childhood. The 26-inch barrel is stamped "Made in U.S.A. Winchester Repeating Arms Co.--Model 67--.22 Short, Long and Long Rifle." It is in very good condition and has all the original blueing. Would you please estimate its value? --H.G.H., Boyd, TX

A Winchester 67 and 67A bolt-action rifles are unserialized. Manufactured from 1934 to 1963 they are usually in well-used condition. Minty specimens are scarce, bringing as much as $300. Factory-original smoothbore M67s will bring at least twice as much.

1917 Enfield
Q I would like to know how much my Enfield 1917 Remington, serial number 3107XX, is worth. It is completely stock and shoots just fine. --G.F., Sauk Rapids, MN

A Over 2 million M1917 Enfields were manufactured between 1917 and 1918 by Remington and Winchester. Unfortunately, the majority have been sporterized by cutting down the full stocks and removing the "ears" on the receiver that protect the rear sight. Consequently, "as issued" examples are rather scarce. Although those of Winchester manufacture are more desirable, an excellent original Remington should bring in excess of $700.

Swivel-Breech Muzzleloader
Q I have a swivel-breech percussion muzzle-loader by W. Moore & Co. It is in good, shootable condition. Any historical or price information would be appreciated. --A.J.T., Gresham, OR

A William Moore and Company flourished from 1853 to1895 at 43 Old Bond Street, London. The partnership between William Moore and William Grey produced many Best Quality London guns. Swivel breech or "wender" rifles were never popular in England, and if this is a London-made rifle, it is rare and, in excellent condition, very valuable. Look for British proofs on the barrels and a London address. There is a William H. Moore listed as working from 1847 to 1874 in Rochester and Ludlowville, New York. Swivel-breech rifles were extremely popular in New York and New England during the second half of the 19th century. In fine condition such a rifle would bring $1,500 to $2,000.

Quackenbush .22
A We recently acquired two firearms but have been unable to find out any information on either of them. Both are too old to have serial numbers, but we would appreciate any information on their history and value. One is a Quackenbush .22 rifle (90 percent); the other is a Hamilton .22 rifle (80 percent). We also have a Dakin single-barrel trap gun with a 34-inch barrel (serial number 9XXX2). We believe it was imported by Simons Specialties in Olathe, Kansas, in the early 1960s. --V.E.D.,Topeka, KS

A H.M. Quackenbush made .22 rifles in Herkimer, New York, from 1884 to 1931. Featuring a side-swing action and lightweight construction, they are now desirable collector's items. The "Safety Model" is the most common and will bring $450 in 90 percent condition. The wire-pistol-gripped versions are much more valuable and will command well over $1,000. The Hamilton Rifle Company in Plymouth, Michigan, made airguns and "rolling block"-action "Boy's" rifles from 1887 to 1933. An 80 percent Hamilton should fetch $200 from a collector. The Dakin single-barrel trap is likely to have been made in Spain using the Dakin name. Dakin guns were of best Spanish quality, and in excellent condition it is worth $800 to $1,000.

S&W Model 625-3
Q Several years ago I purchased a stainless steel Smith & Wesson Model 625-3, serial number BEN02XX. Stamped on the barrel is ".45 Cal. Model of 1989" on the right-hand side. I have been over all the books and can only come up with info for the 625-2. The gentleman at our local gun store says it's the same gun with maybe a small modification, hence the "-3" instead of "-2." Is there anything else you can tell me? --D.D., Oklahoma City, OK

A The S&W 625 is the stainless version of the M25 and was offered in 3-, 4- and 5-inch barrel lengths. All are roll-stamped ".45 Model 1988" on the barrel. The 3- and 4-inch versions were discontinued in 1991. The "-3" means that the model has achieved considerable sales success and does not necessarily indicate a change in design. In mint condition an M625 will bring $600.

Savage Model 1917 Pistol
Q I own a .380 Savage semiauto pistol. It appears to be nickel- or chrome-plated. On top of the barrel, to one side of the small sight channel is "Savage Arms Co. Utica NY, U.S.A. Cal. .380." On the other side is "Patented Nov. 21, 1905 9m/m." The front sight is a small post; there is no rear sight. The grips are hard black rubber or some sort of Bakelite with the Savage logo. It has a spur hammer. The serial number is 14XXXB. It appears to be well made and sturdy, with a stiff action. It is in very good condition. Could you tell me its history and value? --K.S., North Hollywood, CA

A The Model 1917 Savage featuring the "spur" hammer or cocking device was made in .32 and .380 from 1920 to 1928. The .380 is almost always more desirable in a collector's handgun than a .32--sometimes astronomically so. Any Savage auto finished in anything other than standard blue is scarce if not rare. All Savage automatic pistols have rather stiff actions. A mint Model 1917 .380 in factory nickel will bring close to $1,000.

Rolling Block
Q I have a two-barrelband military rolling-block rifle with a bayonet lug. It's in .50/70 caliber with no markings. Who made it, Remington or Springfield? It's got a 22-inch barrel with a great bore. --R.A., West Monroe, NY

A All .50-70 rolling-block rifles produced at Springfield Arsenal in 1870 and 1871 for the U.S. Army and Navy feature beautiful color case-hardened frames, are stamped with the American eagle and "Springfield Armory" and often "1871." Unmarked specimens made by Remington for state militias do exist, though most of these are marked on the tang of the action with "Remington Arms Co. Illion, N.Y." as well as various patent dates. In crisp condition, your unmarked .50-70 miltary-pattern rifle should be worth $600 to $800.

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