Guns & Ammo Network


Collapse bottom bar
Subscribe
First Look Handguns News Personal Defense Semi Auto SHOT Show 2014

First Look: Remington R51 Sub-Compact Pistol

by G&A Staff   |  January 2nd, 2014 80

Remington R51New for 2014, the Remington R51 Sub-Compact pistol was designed as a modern version of Remington’s original Model 51. Originally designed in 1915 by John Pedersen, the Model 51 was considered ahead of its time, and soon became one of Gen. George Patton’s personal sidearms during WWII.

While designing the new R51 Sub-Compact, Remington aimed to modernize Pedersen’s design to work with 9mm Luger and .40 S&W cartridges. They also wanted to maintain the personality, shooting characteristics and size of the original Model 51.

Enter the R51 Sub-Compact—a modern, concealable pistol with the ability to handle +P factory ammunition. The R51 uses a hammer-fired, Pedersen action with a locked breech and fixed 416 stainless steel barrel. It also features drift-adjustable sights and an aluminum frame with 25 lines-per-inch checkering on the front grip strap.

An ambidextrous magazine release allows left- and right-handed shooters to eject the flush-fitting, seven-round magazines—two of which come standard with the pistol.

Additional versions of the R51 Sub-Compact line will include one with a built-in Crimson Trace Laserguard, as well as another model with a threaded barrel for suppressor attachment.

The standard Remington R51 Sub-Compact will be available Feb. 1, 2014 at a price of $389.

The R51 also joins a collection of new offerings from Remington for 2014.

Check out our exclusive photos below, and be sure to read the full review in our upcoming March 2014 issue of Guns & Ammo, available on newsstands Feb. 4, 2014.

  • TheSmellofNapalm

    Very nice. Right now it’s between this and the Sphinx SDP Compact for my next purchase. Any thoughts?

    • beachboygemini

      My thoughts are, get the Remington r51.
      Until now, I have been quite satisfied with my Beretta nano, for concealed carry. I plan to replace it with an r51.
      The r51, if it ever hits stores(I am very impatient), is the most advanced ccw that I know of period.
      All metal, single action, match grade bbl and bushing, +p ready, low and fixed barrel, delayed blowback.
      This gun is great looking. I do not mean that its pretty, but that the features are as close to perfect for a ccw as they should be.
      Yes it will be available in .40 SnW.
      Its 6.6inches long. 4.6 inches tall.
      There are a couple of stores that are selling them on pre order, for around $500-.
      Save money on ammunition and buy 9mm. :-)

  • ResponsibilityWorks

    Ok, so I need specs. Weight? Dimensions. Barrel length?

  • Louie T

    380 Walther ppk; Remington R51380 now 9mm, Colt 1911.ANYONE SEE A Trend here ? Old technology combined with new, Genius ! Way to go gig green ! Perfect for ccw. Remington filled the void that glock could not.

    But its all good, the more new guns the better. 2014 getting off to a great start !

    • Major Hassle

      Louie spoke of a Walther pp, also about some of the “old school” aspects of a good pocket rocket… the 380 aka 9mm kurz or aka 9×17, a round that is a tad bit lacking in power on many folks lists… but, I picked up a Walther clone about 30 years ago in the form of the Hungarian FEG PA-63… a fine weapon that burps out 9×18… sort of a 380 on steroids..if you use the Eastern European ammo, you need to pull the trigger not once but 3 or 4 times… the European stuff, no two rounds are loaded the same… but with Hornady, it’s an awesome round in the 9×18…. this new 9×19 +P, I would really like to get my hands on one… this R51 seems to be a reflection of a PA-63… the 63 has a tad bit longer barrel than a PPK, a tad bit more accurate… and the Remington folks state that they have addressed the muzzle flip… I so do hope so… because all of the PPK and PPK clones have this problem… One other lesson that I so hope that Remington has learned… the aluminum frame… the Hungarians went this route back in the 1960′s in their design… the aluminum frame was light than their steel models, ie, the Walam 48, the AKP, and a few others… the one lesson that they did learn was to add titanium to their aluminum frames for a tad bit more strength… We hope Remington learned from FEG’s mistake and remake of their weapon…

      • Louie T

        Well said major

  • Commiefornia

    Sub-compact that’s +P rated. Nice! I was looking at the Springfield XD-S9, but the stupid CA handgun roster doesn’t list it. Hoping this pistol will be on it.

    • David Kachel

      Not a chance. Not if it looks scary, which is the real test used by anti-gunners.

    • j

      Sorry to share the bad news- With the new microstamping law- there will never be any new models of semi-autos ever again in California- thanks to Arnie-

      • LawnChairOperator

        SSE could make it happen though, right? Convert to Single Shot, purchase, convert back, done.

        • Commiefornia

          Yup. I was thinking the same thing. Just make a cheap, single shot magazine.

    • tinacn

      UGH! The best solution is to move out of the State of Californication as soon as possible. Florida has a similar climate to SoCal and is very gun friendly.

      • Commiefornia

        Can’t argue with moving out of Commiefornia! :-)

    • Chuck

      It doesn’t look like it has enough of the safety features California requires for firearms to be approved.

  • HoustonGunBlog

    looks just like the Vektor CP1 9mm we have on auction

    • beachboygemini

      Does the vector have a 3.4″ match grade barrel and bushing?
      Is it single action?
      Is it an inch wide?
      Does it have multiple features that directly influence muzzle rise and recoil?
      I guess I can look this up.
      The r51 will be my next firearm purchase.

  • Louie T

    General Patton would be proud to slide this American beauty into his holster.

  • Louie T

    General Patton would be proud to slide this American beauty into his holster.

  • Thomas F. McDonald

    I’m old school, ppk/s, mauser HSC, baretta m-34, CZ-38, colt model-M and now at last the Remington 51. Don’t get me wrong I like the new glocks, rugers etc, but there is something about a all steel colt or walther that plastic can’t replace. Just me I guess.

    • Jack

      The frame is aluminum, according to a few sources. Even so, with a reported MSRP of $389, it looks to be a real winner. Put some nice wood grips on it, and I’m sold.

      • tinacn

        YOU WIN! The grip panels are replaceable, with wood (I think rosewood) being one of the choices!

        • Louie T

          And rubber, and pearl. What did general patton say about those ??? LOL

          • dupkaman

            Something about a pimp’s gun I believe.

          • Louie T

            bingo

          • ZENPATRIOT

            A Kansas City pimp, to be precise.

          • dupkaman

            Wasn’t it New Orleans?

    • Louie T

      I agree with you tom, if you look at the stats on the R51 and the ppk they are real close. r51 being a half inch taller. A new handgun based on a old handgun thats not plastic. This weapon looks like us old school guys still have a say in todays gun market. I think glock will be sorry for not coming out with the 9mm single stack everyone has been screaming for, big green is going to fill that void.

      • big banana

        Should fit the hand and point nicely compared to a Glock.

        • Louie T

          I really hope so. The only glock that feels good in my hand is the model 36.(single stack 45).

    • dupkaman

      I have a mauser HSC and I know what your talking about.

  • James Yahnke

    At least it’s not a .380!

    • tinacn

      That’s my joy as well. I’m old and stubborn, and I cannot get over feeling like a 380 is an “underpowered” round. 9mm/38spcl is as light as I want to go to depend my life on. I KNOW projectile tech is so much better these days, blah, blah, blah…but you have to respect a 9×19 with a good controlled expansion hollow point or ballistic tip.

      • Get Real

        Get Real¡¡ Here’s a test: take a 22 pistol and put it to your head and pull the trigger. My guess is you will drop to the floor. The same can happen to a criminal.
        I know, you don’t want to get that close! I say you must a pussy then.

        • tinacn

          Well, sounds to me like you need to “get real”, my friend. I am 57 and IF I ever have to defend myself with deadly force, I do NOT want to be close enough for my attacker to get his hands on me. 20 feet plus is a good distance. A healthy person can close that distance in about the same time it takes to draw and fire any handgun from a holster. I that makes me a “pussy” in your estimation, fine. I think it makes me SMART. Only a fool WANTS to get into an armed confrontation. Sure, a 22 can drop even a bear if the bullet passes up its nose and hits its brain, but I would not want to count on it. Methinks you have been watching way too many Hollywood fantasy films about gunfights and not near enough actual videos of real self defense shootings.

        • Tweezak

          My brother and I did a test when we were kids. We clamped together a phone book with vise grips and put the muzzle of his revolver up against it. The gun was loaded with blanks and even with the cylinder gap of a revolver the phone book was shredded all the way through. Conclusion: yes, the gas pressure alone is potentially lethal under the right circumstances.
          Feel free to choose a .22 or similar to defend yourself or your family. Please report back how this works out for you. However if you are looking for hand-to-hand combat protection (as you seem to describe in your proposed “test”) then I would dissuade you from using a firearm and choose a non-lethal weapon like a stun-gun. That way when you get disarmed you won’t get killed with your own weapon.

        • Mastro63

          Read about the FBI Miami Shootout- then go back to playing Xbox or whatever you kids do.

        • Louie T

          Hey get real, whens the last time you killed an animal with a firearm ? In 40 + years of hunting in pa i have seen quite of few white tail deer been hit hard with hi power rifle rounds,(308,30-06,300mag) only to run off. (I think i aged myself) After cutting them open finding the heart and or lungs blown apart. they were dead on their feet and didnt know it. I have seen others fall dead on the spot and not even twitch. A strong deer can stay alive for 15 seconds after having its heart blown out. No two animals die alike. And guess what, none of them were high on meth or God knows what other kind of drugs the low lifes are taking now of days. If a harded criminal can still keep coming for 15 seconds after being hit with your bad ass 22 you might end up being his pussy. All handgun calibers are underpowered, the largest caliber you could stop the threat with is the right caliber. Most people with any knowledge of firearms know that 9 mil/ 38 is lowest they will go, and alot of gun guys carry 45s only because they dont make 46s. ! But to each its own, we live in America not europe thank God…..

  • jjmIII_Ruger

    The Shield gets some real competition. Hopefully supply meets demand.

  • tinacn

    I have a SIG P250 subcomp in 40 S&W I love, but carrying it is a bit of a pain. I picked up a used Diamondback DB9 and find that I carry it in a DeSantis Superfly pocket holster very comfortably and accessibly in my front pants pocket. I have had no feeding or ejection problems with it (as long as I have a FIRM grip on it); however, it is a BEAST to shoot with 124gr ammo. A recently installed magazine grip extension helps, but I want to wrap my hands around this R51. It is a bit longer and taller, but if it is more comfortable to shoot and will work for front-pants-pocket holster carry, I’ll get one. I also bought a pair of 511 Tactical Stryker pants, and I love them. I’m gonna buy more and wear them exclusively, methinks. For the record, I’m a 50+ year old overweight male (can’t do IWB carry comfortably), a southpaw, and NRA Basic Pistol Instructor.

    • Louie T

      You and i must have the only db9s that run. I have a yb series, ran over 100 rounds of rem umc 115 grain hardball thru it, then 50 hornady critical defense, and it ran both perfectly. Im also lefty and i also carry it in my left front pocket in a desantis holster. Us 50 + year olds must think a like. i think the people having problems with their dbs are trying to run rounds over 124 grain or they are not using a firm enough grip. You get spoiled carrying around a 11 oz 9mm, everything else feels heavy to me now. I cant wait to get my hands on the new R51, i hope it fits in my front pocket. Maybe the db will become my back up in right rear pocket . that would be quite the set up huh ? By the way what kind of mag extensions are you using ?

      • tinacn

        http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=221345048533

        See the above link on eBay. It’s where I bought mine. Gonna get another one this week. I like it despite the “hole” in the back. Took about 60 seconds to install it.
        I shoot 124gr ammo in my DB9 have shot 115gr and even 90gr stuff, works fine unless I “limp wrist” it, then it will either fail to eject or try to double feed.
        R51, here I come! I just hope it’s not to heavy…

        • Louie T

          Thanks for that link. That looks like it would be great for back up mag or using at the range. It looks like the R51 is 20 ozs. Might have to tighten belt a notch.LOL i read what you said about the tactical pants, they work great. Come summertime i wear golf shorts, they have very large pockets. I can fit my glock 36 in them, even though i still carry the db. In the right pocket there is a small pocket inside it, it fits a db9 mag perfect. And the funny part is i dont golf. What ever works right ?

          • tinacn

            Certainly. Yeah, at 20oz it may feel like a small boat anchor. Aluminum frame instead of “plastic” (I know, I know POLYMER). I can fit my DB9 in my dress pants with the magazine extension just fine, but it’s even better in my cargo shorts or 511 stryker pants. Ordering a second extension this week, as I believe in being as consistent with my carrying piece as possible. Keep your powder dry, Pard…

          • Louie T

            Same back you brother. I was just on the kentucky gun co web sight and they have the R51 listed , but its shows out of stock. Maybe they will be available in the near future. $380 bucks, If its a shooter, it may be one heck of a weapon. I hope they made it easier to break down compared to the original, it looks like it would be a royal pain in the a**. Our db9s cant be beat for that, same as a glock.

  • Larry Haskill

    The only question I have is what kind of hoops will I have to jump through to get a ccw holster?

    • tinacn

      No hoops, just money. I have learned that the best truly concealable holsters come from custom makers, not the Big Guys. Find a holster maker that will make one for you. Most will modify their designs a bit to your specifications, as well as mold the holster to the EXACT firearm. Costs more, but worth it.

    • Louie T

      HUH ?

      • big banana

        It seems very hard to get a holster for anything but a Glock (unless you wait for a custom one).

        • Louie T

          You should try finding a holster for a new gun when your lefty. You learn to adapt to whats on the shelves while your waiting on your custom holster

          • big banana

            There is right handed and there is wrong handed.

          • Louie T

            I believe i heard that before at parris island. SEMPER FI

  • Shmuck Smit

    Really awesome gun. I like how Remington reached back into the past for this one. It’s an innovative idea.

  • Sleepezz

    If it shoots and handles anywhere as well as my original WOW!

  • Jack Wilson

    Remington’s Facebook page has changed the MSRP from $389.00 to $420.00, why give media a MSRP at range day and then turn around and raise it?

    • Louie T

      I noticed that jack

    • R51pistol.com

      Simple answer – PROFIT – this thing is going to be HOT and that is a real good reason to raise the price a bit. Last I looked they are a “for profit company”. The more demand the higher the price. Sucks for me too, I like the lower price but being a business man I get why they would bump it up a bit.

  • Robert Smith

    My awesome lgs has me on their list for $385 out the door, supposedly in a couple of weeks.

  • Colton Lee

    Glad I waited to buy a sub-9. Nothing the other guys have had for the past couple of years have intrigued me. I really like the throw-back design and the grip inserts on the R-1. Price is reasonable The height seems and length are right. Man, what’s not to like? The question is, can I find one to look at, or are we still in the pre-release hype period?

    • Carginian

      What’s not to like? Too easy to reassemble incorrectly, for one. Then not being able to check whether it’s been reassembled correctly without actually shooting it again, for two. The Truth About Guns forum goes into detail about this particular issue with the R51, as well as some other issues with the R51. It’s not bad advice to wait on some more reviews. For example, there were those that first jumped on the SA XDs pistols, and then there were the recalls that came shortly thereafter.

  • bob100

    R51 discussion forum http://r51pistol.com/

    Why would you buy a R51?

    What would stop you from buying a R51

    • Roy

      I hear I cant buy it in mass, not mass complaint due to it takes a silencer
      is this true
      Roy

  • John

    I would be interested to know how the trigger feels. Some posts on other sites claim that it is somewhat gritty, sluggish break. If it isn’t a clean crisp break accuracy suffers greatly. While I would like one the jury is out until I can physically inspect one, or just be satisfied with my Springfield Armory .40 cal EMP.

  • cDiggs

    American made. Receiver is not plastic. Single stack magazine. Hammer, not striker fired. I can afford one (maybe two). Yep, I’ll buy it. BTW; for many years I have, and continue to, carry a S&W 39-2, my absolute favorite pistol of all time.

  • CombatTrooper

    What is the wholesale price as that will determine what the customer pays?
    And how will .40 differ? Six rounds in the mag?

  • WhiskeyCobra

    I have a Ruger P95 9mm. Great for home defense but a little bulky for concealed carry. The Remington R51 is a must have and at this price I see getting one in the near future. Waiting to see if it’ll be offered in .40 S&W.

  • al

    I like the old one best. If it is marketed for “concealed” carry, why make it bigger? Didn’t Lucille Ball say, “Don’t f*** with success”? I have shot the old one many years ago. It worked just fine.

  • johnny wad

    Its about time someone came out with this.I have been looking for a walther p5 compact in current production for years (not sold in USA).Old surplus is about as close as I could get .This new Remington R51 will it the bill nicely.

  • http://www.ccwammo.com Ccw Ammo

    get a little Winchester Ranger T 147s and she will go http://www.ccwammo.com

  • Tim Bucktoo

    Got one on order, seems like they are a little slow on the roll out. Anyway now the trick is to find an original to go with it.

  • Markky CZ

    Amazing gun! I hope, it’ll be avilable in Europe soon.I saw some quality problems (free sliding sights etc.), but I hope they’re just childhood illnesses. Definitely, I’ll buy this gun! No plastic, about a half inch thiner than my CZ 75B, is this gun much more useful for concealed carry. Anyway, the R 51 just confirms, that everything important and solid was invented in the past by our Grandfathers in 1911, 1915 and finally 1975. Afterwards just an Austrian PET bottle.. :-)

  • Major Hassle

    This new R51 reminds me, or comparatively speaking, reminds me of a Walther PPK or a Hungarian FEG PA-63… the Walther being a 9×17 or a 9mm Kurz, and the FEG PA-63 being a 9×18, which is basically a 380 (9mm x 17) on steroids…
    My FEG PA-63 was acquired under different circumstances when I was in the service many years ago… The PA-63 is in fact an exact replica of the ole Walther with a few changes… It’s an “old school” design makes good for a pocket rocket… The Walther PPK, the Walam 48, Astra, and Bersa, to name a few, all use the 380 aka 9mm kurz or aka 9×17, a round
    that is a tad bit lacking in power on many folks lists… but, as I said earlier, I picked
    up a Walther clone about 30 years ago in the form of the Hungarian FEG
    PA-63… a fine weapon that burps out 9×18… sort of a 380 on
    steroids..if you use the Eastern European ammo, you need to pull the
    trigger not once but 3 or 4 times… the European stuff, no two rounds
    are loaded the same… but with Hornady, it’s an awesome round in the
    9×18…. this new 9×19 +P, I would really like to get my hands on one…
    this R51 seems to be a reflection of a PA-63… the 63 has a tad bit
    longer barrel than a PPK, and is a tad bit more accurate…which means, I’m on target at distances out to 30 to 40 yards… many sub-compacts, if the target is out beyond 12 yards, you’d be lucky to hit an outhouse…
    The Remington
    folks state that they have addressed the muzzle flip… I so do hope
    so… because all of the PPK and PPK clones have this problem… One
    other lesson that I so hope that Remington has learned… the aluminum
    frame… the Hungarians went this route back in the 1960′s in their
    design of the PA-63 in order to lighten the weight of the weapon… the aluminum frame was much lighter than their steel models, ie, the
    Walam 48, the AKP, and a few others… the one lesson that they did
    learn was to add titanium to their aluminum frames for a tad bit more
    strength… We hope Remington learned from FEG’s mistake and remake of
    their weapon… Aluminum is great, but durability and life of the weapon will concern me… I am really anxious to find one, shoot a couple of rounds, and experience this new weapon, especially using a 9×19 round in +p… a 135 grain bullet would definitely get me all excited and all wound up… it would be comparable to shooting a light load 40 S&W…

  • silvercliff_46

    I have a couple of .45′s for my personal defense weapons. A Glock double stack model 30, which I call my night gun (Crimson Trace laser). I also have a Springfield XDS single stack for a concealed carry (no laser) as well as a Ruger LCP .380 for a back up pocket gun. My wife carries a Ruger LC .380 (Veridion Green Laser with auto activation) the .380′s are loaded with Hornady Critical Defense which ballistics has been shown to be every bit as effective as the old 9mm cartridge. My wife and I are both senior citizens. She has never fired so much as a BB gun until the last few years. She is recoil sensitive. She handles the LC .380 quite well, isn’t afraid of it, and is confident in using it. She has been taught (by me) to keep firing until the threat is stopped, even if it takes a second mag. I think men make a big mistake over gunning their spouses weapons to the point that they don’t want to shoot them, nor practice enough to be proficient. True that her weapon won’t put down a perp as fast as my .45 with Critical Defense, but 6-8 rounds center mass will slow them down and make them do funny stuff if they are still standing.
    That’s my opinion anyway, but if bigger is always better, why screw around with a 9mm, do a .45 or Dessert Eagle .50, heck why not stuff a 12 ga pump under your over coat with slugs.

  • JP

    Shame it’s a piec of junk.

  • abrar Ali

    May i know its price???

  • GUEST 2

    I bought a R51 three weeks ago @ a Mn. Gander Mtn store for a tad bit over $300 due to a In Store special when you open up a Cred card account there, and there
    was a Rem $30 rebate included. Two days after the purchase I put it through 150
    rounds of kill’N tin cans, and punch’N paper! Not a single jamb, and it ran smooth through rapid fire! @ five yards it was cut’N 3 inch paper groups, and even better
    when I got the feel of the trigger. I almost had to look in my wallet to see if it was
    Indeed me shooting this well after moving back to 10 yards. I have medium size
    hands so there were no slide bites that some complain about with catcher mit hands.
    I own a Ruger LCP .380 , CZ 75 9MM, 1911 Spring .45, Ruger SP-100 357, Ruger
    Single six 22/22mag! and now the R51 with the 9MM P+ option which works well for
    my carry needs. Everyone will enjoy the fact that these sights on the R51 refuse
    to bounce around once you lock on target and let it rip!. SO GET ya-self one!!!!.
    Safe shooting to all of you!
    Combat Vet, 67′ & 68′

  • Saxman

    Ghd Retail Price On This Gun Is 320.00 , To Pay Above Retal Is Crazy. The Average Selling Price Is 250.00-275.00. 385.00 Must Be The One With The Crimson Trace Rig On It. The Standard Model I Bought 2 At 255.00 Each, 9 mm.

  • FL-Wolf

    I’ve only seen this gun on this website, but I like the look of it. The one detail I’d like to see is a pinky extension on the magazine. I hope they’re available. I have big hands (ring size 15) and most pistol grips are too short for me on compact guns. I’m used to shooting large guns, such as the Baby Desert Eagle, SIG, Taurus or Ruger. If you have large hands as well and own a comfortable compact carry gun, I’d like to get your input on this subject.

  • drb

    Everyone else has got high capacity pistols and Remington going to market a 7 shooter?smooth move exlax

  • JL619

    Has anyone mentioned that the manual states that only 2 types of ammo are to be used. Remmington of course and I think Cor-Bon. Pretty restrictive. Not ready for prime time pistol and a big kiss off to all the writers who slobbered all over the company that pays big buck in advertising to G&A

back to top