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8 Great 9mm Pocket Pistols for Personal Defense

by Dick Metcalf   |  November 5th, 2012 90

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I’ve never liked the term “pocket pistol.” Yes, I often carry a pistol in my jacket pocket, but to call a gun a pocket pistol implies that it is specifically designed to be carried there. That is seldom (if ever) the case. So if I use the word “pocket” at all in reference to a handgun, I prefer the term “pocket-size.”

The past two years have seen an explosion in the availability of small 9mm semi-autos. Of course, there were pocket-size 9mms on the market before, but this category of handguns has now suddenly gone mainstream, with every major manufacturer adding new entries to a rapidly growing list. The reasons are complex and represent both a trend in consumer demand for concealed carry handguns and, in general, attitudes about the 9mm cartridge by firearms experts and ordinary citizens alike.

Foremost among these reasons is a fundamental shift in attitude among Americans in the post-9/11 and post-Katrina world about the need to have a firearm in their home or on their person for personal (and family) protection. This has resulted in a rapid acceleration of state and local legislation to the point where, today, 49 of our 50 states allow some type of concealed firearm carry by ordinary citizens. The consequence is that citizens by the millions have acquired concealed carry licenses, and many more have—for the first time—purchased small handguns for defense.

Because these buyers are not experienced shooters, they are largely unaware (even immune) to the arguments that have raged for decades among firearms experts over the “best” handgun designs or the most “appropriate” cartridge choices. The primary concerns of these first-timers are simple: reliability, convenience, ease of use, weight and, of course, cost.

Pocket Avalanche
The result—beginning around 2003—was a huge surge in sales of small, double-action-only, polymer-frame .380 Auto (and smaller-caliber) pistols, led by manufacturers such as Kel-Tec. It didn’t take long for more established name-brand makers to read the writing on the wall. If there was a breakthrough moment, it probably came in 2008 when Ruger introduced its tiny polymer-frame .380 LCP, the first concealed carry ultra-compact pistol the company had ever produced and a very “Kel-Tec-like” product. Across the firearms marketplace, pocket-size pistols ruled.

Then something even more interesting happened. Almost as soon as the LCP .380 appeared on the market, Ruger customers began to clamor for another gun just like it—only in 9mm. Kel-Tec’s polymer-frame double-stack P-11 (introduced in 1995), single-stack PF-9 (2006) and other 9mm variants started to experience record sales. Kahr Arms, whose all-steel, single-stack K9 DAO 9mm (also introduced in 1995) was arguably the first of the “modern feature” compact 9mms, experienced a similar surge, and the company was well positioned to capitalize on the situation since it had also moved increasingly toward polymer construction after the introduction of its 9mm P9 in 2000. Taurus announced its single-stack 9mm PT709 Slim at the same 2008 SHOT Show as Ruger introduced the .380 LCP.

Ruger responded to its customers with the “LCP-like” LC9 9mm in late 2010. Kimber introduced its diminutive 9mm Solo Carry in 2011, and Beretta came forth with its 9mm Nano only a few months later. Smith & Wesson unveiled its single-stack M&P9 Shield in May 2012. And on it goes.

Why has this happened? Firearms historians may eventually call it a “perfect storm” of favorable circumstances: a change in general public attitude about defensive handguns combined with an increasingly favorable legislative climate at the state and local level combined with positive federal court rulings, significant advances in economical handgun manufacturing capabilities and—most notably—a resurrection of the 9mm’s reputation as an effective cartridge for personal defense. Back when the 9mm replaced the .45 ACP as our official military sidearm in the mid-1980s, it was universally disparaged as inadequate by a vast majority of experts. Then, high-capacity firepower trumped single-stack cartridge power (much as the 5.56 trumped the 7.62 with the adoption of the M16 over the M14 in the mid-1960s).

But by the post-9/11 era, thanks to improvements in bullet design and propellant efficiency, even hidebound personal-defense experts who previously dismissed the 9mm were revising their views. The simple fact is that modern compact, polymer-frame, DAO 9mm pistols are where everything comes together with the right balance of weight, reliability, convenience…and power. Today’s new-technology 9mm ammunition is demonstrably equal to the effectiveness of .45 ACP ammo of the mid-1980s, with recoil levels much more appropriate for the average shooter in small handguns. You’d be hard pressed today to find any legitimate expert who would argue that the .45 ACP is a better choice for most compact pistol purchasers than the 9mm. At the same time, most authorities will also argue that the 9mm is superior to the .380 Auto for personal defense in a compact pistol. For most people.

Living with a Little Nine
But not for everybody. For experienced shooters, the 9mm may indeed represent the low end of the power range they can effectively handle in a palm-size gun. For first-timers, it may very well be pushing the upper limit. If you are considering purchasing a pocket-size 9mm for personal defense, making a recommendation to a nonshooter friend or relative or having a pistol that might be called upon for use by different members of your family, there are a number of factors to weigh.

Recoil is the most important. All small 9mms bounce, and bounce notably more than a pistol of the same weight/configuration in .380 Auto, .32 ACP, .25 ACP or even .22 rimfire (which continues to grow as a concealed carry cartridge choice by newly armed citizens). Can all the intended users handle a lightweight 9mm? Can they operate its action and handle its slide-spring stiffness? Is its trigger-pull length and weight appropriate for their hand size and finger strength? Does its grip fit their hand and allow a quick and secure grasp for shooting in a high-stress situation?

Let’s take a look at eight of the currently most popular slimline palm-size 9mm pistols on the market. As is obvious from their descriptions, images and the accompanying specifications, they differ widely in terms of design, operating qualities and configuration. Not to mention cost.

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If a compact 9mm is on your radar for yourself or anyone you know, there is only one way to decide which one (if any) is the right choice. Handle it. Shoot it if possible. Until you do, you (or your friend or loved one) will be buying a pig in a poke.

As for reliability, they are all reliable. I have reviewed and lived with them all, several of them over a period of years. They work. Besides, if they weren’t reliable, they wouldn’t sell. As for accuracy, all of them will empty their magazines into the diameter of a coffee cup at 50 feet, which is all that is really needed for a close-up-and-personal life-crisis gun. And most will deliver groups less than half that size if you care to bear down and benchrest them. Most are available both with flat-base (two-finger grip) magazines and/or base-hook or extended (three-finger grip) magazines, which can make a huge difference in shootability. Several are offered with laser sight options, which can be a critical aid to the inexperienced.

Today’s increasing array of compact 9mm pistols may well represent a fundamental maturation in the long search for a general answer to the question of “what’s best for defense” for the average person. After all, millions of American armed citizens are buying these things. They can’t all be wrong.

Makes and Models
Here’s the mainstream crop of recently introduced pocket-size 9mm pistols currently available in the marketplace. Stay tuned. More are on the way…

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  • Agustín

    Why isn´t the Walther PPs?? It´s bigger???

    • Micah

      I feel like it was a horrible oversight to leave out the Walther PPS. It shouldn't have been counted out due to size since it's extremely close in size to the M&P Shield. In fact, it's actually a little shorter in height. Leaving the PPS out is doing it such a disservice, it's a good handgun.

    • Ben

      No PPS = pointless comparison. The Shield and the PPS are the Coke and Pepsi of the current single stack subcompact 9mm market. Everything else is just an also-ran.

  • Hooty

    You forgot the #1 pocket sized 9mm. A Glock 26.

    • Josh T

      a glock 26 is MASSIVE compared to other pocket-sized pistols. super wide with a double stack mag and it’s well over 6 inches long. soooooooo not a pocket 9.

      • Franco

        I have a 27 and it is just too heavy for pocket gun. That 1/8 in thicker frame really hurts in the pocket. Not so much inside the waist band.

      • bob

        the shield is also over 6 inches long. i have a glock 26…its a great shooter but as you say its wide, but its still smaller than a 5 shot .38 special….and you get 10 rounds. that said, i’m planning on buying a shield or xds soon because i do want a slim, inside the pants single stack9. but you can a lot worse than settling for a g26…they got into coat pockets fine(in holster of course to cover trigger) and are pretty easy to conceal outside pants carry if you have on any kind of jacket.

    • Sara

      Not even remotely the same size as these guns. Nice try though.

      • Michael Overbey

        Actually in the most important dimension for pocket carry, height, the g26 is shorter than many of the other pistols. People saying that its too wide are just ignorant…..Get a proper pocket holster. The width also makes it way more shootable.

  • Jess

    The Block is just a chopped full size, nothing new or innovative at all.

  • David Phifer

    How do you not have the Springfield XD9 subcompact in there?

  • Mack Missieltoe

    Anyone else notice that Sig stands out from the rest? Even if they tried to stand it up so it does not? lol

    I met a guy who had a P238 and it sure looked nice. I didn't realize Sig made a P938. Now I gotta go watch some vids, hehe

  • Charles

    This article is right on point. My wife picked out a P 11 for herself without shooting it first. She hates the long DAO trigger pull and doesn't want it after shooting 50 rounds. Now we are looking at striker fired and revolvers with DA hammers.

    • Tim

      Try the M&P Shield first, great trigger!

    • old vet

      The key word previously was "try". If at all possible test any firearm you are thinking of using for protection. Ergonomics, "feel", and reliability, are all factors in how you will live with your choice.

    • http://www.facebook.com/joe.watson.900 Joe Watson

      I got the LC9 and I like it MUCH BETTER than the P-11.

  • LJenkMD

    Check out the Boberg, XR9. Truly innovative design. Not in wide circulation yet, but getting good reviews.

  • KLD

    The article misses a very excellent alternative – the Boberg XR-9. While expensive, it is compact, ergonomic, excellently engineered, and amazes almost everyone with a low amount of felt recoil. Sometimes you pay more and get more. Boberg's customer service leaves every one smiling.

    It is well worth considering.

    • Mark

      That (more) means a grand for a small chunk. The S&W shield is cheaper and does the same damage and has a better trigger.

  • https://www.facebook.com/poppagriz Gary R. Martin

    I am extremely happy with my Springfield EMP, 9mm, 1911 all the way…love it, smooth trigger, shoots nice, fits a pocket, comes with 3 mags, and loaded with new Hornady Protection Plus. Price is heavy, but style, beauty, and functionability…hard to beat. Been carrying it for 2 yrs now, and still not malfuntions. Love it, if one can afford it, and is ok with 1911, cocked and locked condition.

    • Freedom_Road

      Love the EMP problem is you can buy 2 for the price of one of them.

  • Will

    Kahr pm9 all day long!!!!! You can keep the rest!!!!

  • https://www.facebook.com/poppagriz Gary R. Martin

    Why was my comment deleted before it left my site? Deleleted by administrator??? Hmmm, no slang, no profane, only positive words for my pistol. Was that wrong?

    • dylan_polk

      Should be showing up now; don't know why it was deleted, but I apologize for the mix-up.

      Dylan Polk
      G&A Social Media Editor

  • https://www.facebook.com/poppagriz Gary R. Martin

    Will attempt to post again…I have been carrying my pocket pistol for past two yrs, the Springfield EMP, two-toned, 1911A1 style and functions, 9mm, came with 3 mags, 8 rds each, smooth trigger release, all metal, got it all beauty, functionality, and a true 1911A1 all the way. Price is alittle heavy, but hard to beat for carry pistol…love it. Btw, it is loaded with Hornady's Critical Defense ammo.

  • Gloves

    Great article. I asked my FFL dealer about a Kel-Tec PF-9. Said it's not available to Californians. So I went with a Glock 36 (i know it's not a 9mm but still small and single stack) I thought I was done buying guns this year. Guess not =)

    • James

      That’s pretty crazy that a US-made pistol with a 7 round magazine is on California’s naughty list.

  • Tanstaafl2

    I've got a Kel-Tec P3AT that I carry in a front pocket holster. It's slim and it's light (even in .380, recoil is decidedly "snappy"), but the dang mag release button keeps getting depressed and popping the mag loose while in my pocket.

    • James

      Never had that problem with mine. I’d get that looked at.

  • T.D. Honeycutt

    I agree with Hooty – where's the Glock? If the M&P qualifies, I'd think the 26 or 27 ought to be considered. And as to the Glocks not being anything new. The M&P isn't any more innovative than the Glock, which has decades of experience and reliability.

    • Fast Money

      Glock 26 is not on the list maybe because its not a pocket pistol. You need to have really big pockets for the G26 to be a pocket pistol. Looks like all the pistols in the article are small single stacks, just as it should be. I could carry a G26 in my cargo shorts but it's pretty blocky and not very comfortable.

    • James

      When Glock finally wakes up and makes a single stack 9mm or .380 they will start appearing on lists like this one. Glock is a great gun, but they haven’t exactly branched out with their designs.

      • TPM

        From a weight standpoint, the Glock 26 is in the ballpark, at 19.75 oz.
        BUT, it is bulkier than any of this articles “pocket pistols.”
        The one single stack that Glock makes, the Glock 36 in 45 acp is sweet. It’s just a hair bigger than the Glock 26. Still, Glock fans seem to gravitate to the Glock 30, with its double stack mag for more. The new 30S is gonna be popular. Smaller print than the standard Glock 30 and just 20.28 oz. BUT, kinda big for a “pocket” pistol.
        I’ve got a Kahr PM 9. I like it’s optional extended mag & it shoots well. The slide is kinda tight. I’m OK with it.
        The Ruger LC9 is nice. Can be purchased with a built-in Crimson Trace laser. Laser’s are a nice feature. Great for darker venues and when shooting from other than a standard position.
        Like to try the M&P. It looks & sounds top notch, as well.

  • Don Bailey

    My wife looked long and hard for a compact pistol that fit her hand and she finally decided that the Ruger LC9 was just right. She took it to the range and shot very impressive groups from the start. After 250 rounds, there have been no malfunctions of any kind. Each trip to range has resulted improved groupings. Most important though, was the recoil was very manageable for her. The pistol meets all of the requirements for a conceal carry weapon.

    • Jack London

      Don I too like the Ruger line of CC pistols, I have a SR9C that shoots amazing and would not trade it for the world.

  • Rich

    I will stick with my Bersa Thunder 380!

  • dr_cmg

    The statement with the photo of the Kel-Tec PF-9 says it is "the flattest and lightest single-stack 9mm on the market." It appears that G&A needs to do their research a little better. The Diamondback DB9 weigh 11 oz. and is .80" wide. The PF-9 weighs 12.7 oz. and is .88" wide. From where I come from 11 oz. is less then 12.7 oz. and .80" is less than .88". The Diamondback has been out for at least 11 months; why is it not in the review?

    Where is the Sig P290? It fits in the mix as welll.

    • Donby

      it's not. the Diamondback DB9 is 11 ozs.

    • trgrhpy2

      That's because Diamondbacks don't cut the mustard(putting it nicely). I had one and in my very short ownership, the dealer sent it back to the factory 3 times. After being returned for the third time it still failed to feed and go to battery and jammed. thankfully the dealer returned my money.

  • Mike

    Notice the comment "it's what I carry" on the PT709 Slim? After reading all the Taurus bashing for so many years it is worth mentioning that the PT740 Slim gives you 6 rounds of .40 in the very same size package as the PT709 Slim. If you are not recoil phobic it is a great choice. I have fired about 400 rounds through my 740 without a single mishap from new. Only pistol I can ever remember buying that had no malfunctions of any kind from the first shot to the 400 something. Just saying.

  • Ernie

    I never see any one say anything about AMT firearms???
    I have one & it got on the side 380 9mm KURZ backup
    Made in California USA

    • old vet

      Probably because they are defunct, also throughout their history they went through so many changes in owner, management , location etc. They also were very hit and miss on quality, some swear by them, others at them. I have a very early Hardballer, and it's very accurate and reliable. If you got lucky enjoy your firearm.

  • Mike

    I will stick with my SCCY CPX-1 second generation. I have put 1700 rds through it without a problem. Fits my hand and is easy to carry plus a ten round magazine. The gun comes with two mags and a trigger lock for the price you can;t beat it IMHO.

    • Dan

      i totally agree, i might bye myself another cpx 2

  • Turok Piston

    Anyone know if any of these models can be threaded and suppressed?

  • old vet

    Probably any of them with a replacement barrel, if someone made it. the question would be why?

  • Jim

    I like to shoot. I just went shooting today at an indoor gun range. but personally (luckily) I've not had to worry about the need for personal defense weapons in the 60 years i've been around.. I grew up in Denver in the 60's when you could go out to the outskirts and plink away at bottles, cans and such, for recreation. We dove-hunted with 12 and 16 gauges in the same outskirts. target guns were part of most young men's experience. that said, we didn't worry about then, and frankly I still don't worry about, having to carry a firearm to survive the day. perhaps a personal experience of physical threat would change my mind, but until now it's not been an issue. is it a question of just being mildly (or not so mildly) parnoid? seriiously, again at 60 yrs old, having lived in big cities all my life, i've not, nor has anyone I know, ever been in immediate need of a handy 9mm. Before you rant, know that I'm asking this with respect, an honest question. invite the conversation.

    • old vet

      Jim, you have been blessed with growing in the golden age as I did. As far as never needing to worry about carrying to carry to be protected again you've been blessed. Many neighborhoods ( such as mine) are simply not safe as they once were. I'll just say all it takes is one really bad encounter to change or end your life. Bad things happen out there. Be well.

  • Bob D

    I actually prefer the S&W M&P 9c over the Shield. It fits my hand better and I am more accurate with it. Love that little pistol!

    • Freedom_Road

      Got one with extensions, I must agree!

  • p dog

    s&m m&p shield is the better of all these guns

  • ctgunowner

    no PPS? i've had a pps in .40 since 2009, not to mention it came out waaay before the S&W shield did…just sayin

  • Troy

    A cool new site you all may be interested in http://www.barkingpatriot.com. Check it out!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000108492297 Ron Childs

    What!!! No CZ?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1622704066 Rob Keeton

    Where’s the Walther PPS? It was the slim 9mm that was the predecessor to the XDS and Shield. Are you really telling people that the Kel-Tec PF9 is a better sub-compact 9mm than a PPS???

    • Josh T

      +1 to that. also, where is the diamondback db9? it’s smaller than pretty much every one of those guns you listed in every capacity.

      • pocketdrummer

        I’ve heard of horror stories from the DB9. Don’t do it.

        Go for a CM9 if you want something small that wont get you killed.

        • Mike W

          I did it a while back and have over 3000 rounds through my PPS 9mm no problems. The PPS is beeing used in a lot of folks, including myself.

  • http://www.facebook.com/alexandre.beraldi Alexandre Beraldi

    No PPS? This is actually the one that started all the trend: the first high quality and reliable pocket 9mm made by a reputable and known manufacturer.

  • David

    I want to echo what others are saying about the missing Walther PPS in 9mm. Not only is it the first of all of these pistols brought to market, it remains a superior product to all of them. The largest problem with the Shield is that, unlike its big brother regular M&Ps, to which the Shield resembles, but is actually not related, the Shield is not an ambi weapon suitable for left-handed shooters. The magazine release notably does NOT reverse for left-handed use. In addition, unlike the M&Ps, the palm swells do NOT interchange. On the PPS, the backstraps interchange for customized fit, and the magazine release is truly ambidextrous. Finally, the backstrap functions as its safety lock, and when it is removed, the gun is non-functional. This is a highly attractive function for a pocket nine, especially if traveling or living with children. In sum: of all the pocket nines you review, not one – not one! has removal backstraps. The PPS does; fires the same ammunition, and is made with similar or better quality. Why was it left out?

  • Dan

    the sccy cpx 2 should be on here for sure, its only 300 bux and better quality then keltechs, in fact its from the makers of keltech

  • FightForYourRights

    How can they say the first “breakthrough” in these pistols is the RUGER LCP, it is actually an identical pistol to the KelTec. Just like the LC9 is a slightly better PF9. I agree that generally the ruger’s are better, although loaded chamber indicators are for people who should not have guns. The fact is KelTec is one of the most innovative and trend setting gun makers there is, Ruger can keep shamelessly stealing the designs of Kel Tec but at least I know that Kel Tec is where the brains and creativity are found.

    • D.B.

      Another Internet commando.

      • James

        Name calling without anything constructive to say, huh? He’s right about Ruger in this instance. I love the LCP and I own one, but it’s a direct lift from Kel-tec.

    • Robert

      Love my PF-9. Initially had some misfeed issues with hollow points but after pushing about two hundred rounds through it, not a single misfeed and I’ve put hundreds of rounds through since. Good reliable little pistol.

    • Guest

      When I grab my pistol at night, the little nub sticking up letting me know its loaded is very reassuring. It doesn’t effect accuracy or reliability, and I still do my press checks, but it does give a little peace of mind in the dark.

  • http://www.facebook.com/wdeclercq1 Wouter de Clercq

    is the picture ‘nines in the pocket’ availlable in greater picturequality – would like to make a big poster of this for in my poolroom …

  • http://www.facebook.com/hondafreek Raul Gonzalez

    Wow!, can’t believe they left out Springfield!, personally I’ll stick with my Xd subcompact!

  • printmaster52

    I looked at the M&P Shield and the Colt New Agent 9mm and didn’t like either of them. Finally bought the Sig P938 Equinox which I believe is about the best of the ones reviewed here. Tight 3 in groups at 15 + yds and easy enough to handle. I do prefer the 7 round mag over the 6 round and both have tight springs so getting the last round in is tough.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Shelly-Arens/100000413202074 Shelly Arens

    I love my SCCY CPX 2! 10 round magazine, light and easy to carry concealed. Lifetime warranty from the manufacturer (Daytona, FL) follows the gun for life.

  • Jason @ Pistol Packin’ Dad

    I’ve been looking for a small 9mm carry. I like the LC-9.

    • LaCrika

      Im looking at that one too

      • rambo

        I carry the LC-9. Love it. My wife has the Berretta Nanno. I have shot it and never had any issues with it. I can’t speak for the rest of these but the LC-9 and Nanno are winners in my book.

  • damond

    I had a shield 9 and sold it. I now carry a nano. It’s sleek with no levers and controls, especially BS CA compliant safety. The kimber solo should just be flushed down a toilet. Biggest non working pos ever. I’d rather four Taurus’ for the price of that one solo.

  • Joe Smith

    My personal “take” on these weapons is based on my 25 year career with a U.S. government “alphabet agency”. I include first hand experience and/or manufacturer experience and/or manufacturer reputation.

    My opinion presupposes that cost is not a concern when it comes to safeguarding your life. My opinion also presupposes that once a quality firearm is selected and purchased, it will tested with at least 300 rounds of three (3) types of premium JHP 9mm ammunition for reliability.

    Kahr: Personally fired. Universally mushy trigger action. I’d never own one.

    Kel-Tec: Personally fired. Universally mushy trigger. Feels cheap, mushy trigger action. I’d never own one.

    Kimber: Not personally fired this model. Looks promising but Kimber quality has taken a hit in recent years. Might be a keeper.

    Ruger: Not personally fired. History of reliability. Looks promising.

    Taurus: Not personally fired. Consider it, I suppose. I’d send 1,000 rounds (of the best JHP 9mm available) through it to fully trust it based on my past experience with Taurus firearms.

    SIG P938: Personally fired. Loved it. It’s a SIG. It doesn’t get any better than this. My duty weapon was the P229 and is still my favorite handgun but if you prefer a smaller weapon for hot weather, enhanced concealed carry, this SIG might me what you are looking for.

    M&P Shield: Personally fired 4,000+ rounds through it… including hundreds of rounds of old Egyptian surplus 9mm and Wolf Ammunition (possible the dirtiest, most fouling ammunition available) – not one failure. I carry it.

    Beretta Nano: Not personally fired. Know several people that swear by it but have no first hand experience.

    Walther PPS: Personally fired. If the backstrap falls off, is lost, or is broken off (retention button is plastic) you have a non-shootable paper weight.

    Glock 26: Personally fired. Apples and oranges – not dimensionally in even the same class of firearms.

    Tanfoglio / CZ: Personally fired. Hit or miss accuracy. Had a Tanfoglio CZ / TZ 9mm that none of my fellow agents could produce even reliable 4″ groups at 15 yards. Utterly unreliable as a personal defensive weapon – jammed on even premium ammunition.

    So there you go… my opinion. Disregard, disagree as you see fit.

    • Ron47

      What!?! Did you not notice there are no CZs in this article? What CZ exists that is of the small size used in this article? Do you even know that the Tangfolio weapons are knock-offs of CZs and not neccessarily the exact same quality?

    • Franco

      an old discussion that I am just seeing but if you think the trigger on the kahr and keltec are bad wait till you shoot the lc9. It is a keltec with 2 many safeties and trigger like a squirt gun filled with sand.

      • bob

        bingo. i bought an lc9. took it to range 3 times. HATED the trigger pull..i was concerned when i dry fired it before buying but its just horrible at the range. good luck getting 6 hits on a target at 5 yards. it might work as a close in personal defense gun within 5 feet…but you wont have any fun target shooting with it. and the grip is not ergo for my hands…shield has an amazingly better grip. i already sold the lc9. had it for 3 months. i was partially tricked into the lc9 because i have the ruger lcp and luv it. i thought lc9 might be simliar..nope.

  • pocketdrummer

    DO NOT buy a Kel-Tec if you value your life.

    I listened to the reviews on YouTube and on the web saying they fixed all the issues they had early on. I can tell you right now that they HAVE NOT fixed them. Mine is the serial RX2xx, so it’s well after they supposedly fixed it.

    Save a little more money for a CM9. You won’t regret it.

  • 702bdr

    For anyone thinking about a Kahr PM9, don’t buy one. They have a well documented issue with having to bump a new round into the chamber when inserting a fresh magazine. It’s even discussed in their owner’s manual. Search on it in YouTube.

  • Loganator

    A Taurus?? What is this world coming too…

  • J. Gastovski

    “I don’t think that requiring 16 hours of training to qualify for a concealed carry license is infringement in and of itself.

    But that’s just me… .”

    -Dick Metcalf

    ^ Is this the kind of guy you want as a media representative of the gun community?

  • Right Wired
  • ruffruff

    dick metcalf – thank you for your courage and so sorry it cost you your job.

  • Deborah Jones

    I just started looking at getting a pocket-size firearm but I’m a little clueless. I’ve shot firearms before and even got my firearm safety certificate for hunting. But I’m looking now at actually purchasing a personal protection firearm that will sit nicely in my purse. Any suggestions or help would be much appreciated. Oh, also I like pistols that you don’t have to recock after the first shot. I don’t remember what that’s called. Thanks!

  • Alan Winquist

    The Beretta NANO 9 MM is one sweet carry semi-auto,nothing on the frame for hang up’s. Shoots fine & disassemble’s smoothly. I’m glad that I purchased one of these NANO’s.

  • bob

    my 2 cents: i have glock26, i HAD a lc9, i have an LCP, i’ve shot walther pps and springfield xds (both owned by friends of mine). i only owned the lc9 for like 3 months and sold it. HORRID long long long, still going, long trigger pull. good luck getting 6 rounds in a target 5 yards out…the trigger pull ruins the shots. i took it to range 3 times…i’d get 4 of 6 in the target at 3 yards. lukv my g26. glocks just make shooters look way better than they are. walther pps is nice BUT for me, the mag well bites into my hand at a spot that bothers me. doesnt matter if i use flush mag or +1…plus backstrap bites in an annoying way. shot great though. xds is VERY similar to pps but i liked the grip way better..i just did. i luv my tiny lcp in 380 and so i THOUGHT i’d like the lc9 and waivered many times based on dry firing it but finally took the chance…big mistake…grip doesnt fit my hand well either. planning on shield next which feels GREAT in my hand…just a great grip. you want another gun with fantastic grip…walther ppq…but thats not in this size comparo. glock 26 is pretty awesome but its thicker than the guns we are talking here…but its still smaller than a 5shot .38 special…think about that….so if you can conceal a 5shot snubbie…no issue with going with the glock26.

  • Zeb

    XDs in 9mm needs to be added to this list…

  • gym

    How can you recommend a PF9 when 50% of the comments on this gun are negative experiences. You are talking about a gun that is used to protect your life, 1% would be too many complaints.

    • BeGe1

      That’s mostly because kel-tec uses its customers as its quality control test subject. They basically seem to make a new gun and send it out with little attention to anything, get tons of feedback (i.e. horrible experiences) then fix stuff until they have it right.

      Of course, that sucks nuts for those that buy kel-tec stuff early (to play devil’s advocate, if you have an old unreliable one you can send it back to them and they’ll basically send you a new reliable one at no charge…not that that does you any good if it craps out when you need it most…). But at this point buying a newly made PF-9 will be completely reliable.

      Basically: buying kel-tec stuff once a model has been around long enough for everyone else to discover the myriads of problems and let kel-tec fix them = good. Buying before that = bad.

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